Managed to tie these two ugly ducklings yesterday – not certain what went wrong. Usually can get this style out pretty nicely but not today. Tried a different thread GSP200 instead of regular GSP150 but that should not have be major issue. They are a bit smaller than my normal bugs. Will have to fine tune things a bit more.

Pickerel should still like these (or maybe I will neuter them and use as practice casting flies).